01.06.2008
 BarbaraS1 contributed 18 messages during 202 minutes.
 
 2008.06.01 05:08:25 Login
 
 Room: TI_Reception
 
 BarbaraS1 joined the room.
 
 ThomasLev: but I'm not sure of her hometown
 
 ThomasLev: Hi Barbara
 
 NergizK: What did she teach?
 
 NergizK: Hi Barbara
 
 ThomasLev: At one point, she taught this TOEFL class
 
 ThomasLev: but she taught various things
 
 DennisOl joined the room.
 
 ThomasLev: Hi Dennis!
 
 NergizK: I see.
 
 JeffC: Hi all
 
 NergizK: Hi Dennis! Hi Jeff
 
 BarbaraS1: hi!
 
 ThomasLev: Hi Jeff
 
 JeffC: Vanc says he'll be here in about half an hour.
 
 BarbaraS1: Hi Dennsi
 
 BarbaraS1: Dennis and all
 
 NergizK: We have Barbara
 
 BarbaraS1: Yes, he is on his way
 
 JeffC: He said Barbara would provide words or wisdom in his place.
 
 BarbaraS1: haha
 
 DennisOl: Hi, Tom and Jeff and Michael and Nergiz and Bobbi.
 
 BarbaraS1: i can only wish
 
 JeffC: ooops... "of" not "or"!
 
 ThomasLev: words or wisdom, take your pick
 
 BarbaraS1: what is today's subject? Or is it Open House?
 
 NergizK: he he that's a good one
 
 NergizK: Nothing particular, Barbara
 
 DennisOl: Bobbi: I enjoyed seeing photos of your students on your school's website.
 
 MichaelS1: hello folks! this is my first time here
 
 NergizK: We were talking about time zone. Thomas having breakfast soo and me having late lunch
 
 BarbaraS1: Oh thanks!
 
 DennisOl: Welcome, Michael.
 
 BarbaraS1: Such a sweet bunch, I'll miss this class.
 
 DennisOl: You're welcome, Bobbi.
 
 BarbaraS1: I finish this week.
 
 NergizK: Welcome, then, MIchael
 
 DennisOl: Yes, I'm sure you will.
 
 ThomasLev: Where are you from, Michael?
 
 BarbaraS1: Hi Michael.
 
 MichaelS1: I've just joined slexperiments and Evolve, it's a joining day
 
 NergizK: Thanks for participating in slexperiments
 
 MichaelS1: I'm UK
 
 BarbaraS1: What do they do?
 
 NergizK: I'm also thinking of signing up for Evolve
 
 DennisOl: Can you tell me something about Slexperiments?
 
 MichaelS1: over to you, Nergiz
 
 NergizK: It's a wiki for language teachers who teach or want to teach i Second LIfe
 
 NergizK: To cooperate in collecting Landmarks, teaching ideas
 
 DennisOl: Ah, I see. Thanks, Nergiz.
 
 NergizK: and creating lesson plans
 
 BarbaraS1: Oh I'll have to show my son
 
 NergizK: We also have weekly meetings in SL
 
 BarbaraS1: he's writing a report on teaching and second Life
 
 NergizK: where we share SL skills and tools
 
 BarbaraS1: i suppose he's been there
 
 NergizK: Oh, really, Barbara?
 
 BarbaraS1: yes for his masters
 
 NergizK: Sounds great! I'm thinking of writing something, too
 
 BarbaraS1: oh sorry, I have to go for a minute
 
 BarbaraS1: I'll be right back
 
 NergizK: OK
 
 ThomasLev: brb also
 
 NergizK: OK
 
 NergizK: Dennis, how are you? Haven't seen you for a while
 
 NergizK hadn't
 
 NergizK -)
 
 DennisOl: I'm OK.
 
 NergizK: Good to hear
 
 DennisOl: Thanks. I'm in a transition period now. I no longer have classes, and I'm trying to figure out how to manage my "online life."
 
 NergizK: Wow, that's some change. i also need to manage my online life and second life. It get's out of hand
 
 DennisOl: I can certainly understand, Nergiz.
 
 NergizK: Somehow, being online doesn't realy save time
 
 NergizK: There are so many interesting things that it's difficult to limit oneself
 
 DennisOl: Not at all. It actually REQUIRES a lot of time.
 
 MichaelS1: it's a whole new world
 
 DennisOl: Definitely, Michael.
 
 MichaelS1: and SL is another whole new world
 
 NergizK: An exciting world
 
 NergizK: Yes, and we have so many identities
 
 NergizK: I the past this was considered a psychological condition :-D
 
 DennisOl: Yes, it's definitely a whole new world. I'm not very interested in SL because the learning curve is so steep. This opinion might change, however.
 
 NergizK: Dennis, join our group and it will change
 
 DennisOl: I'll think about it.
 
 MichaelS1: together is a good way to learn
 
 DennisOl: Where can I get more information on your group?
 
 NergizK: You don't have to jiong the wiki but can join the weekly meetings
 
 MichaelS1: http://slexperiments.pbwiki.com/
 
 NergizK: Well, for that you will have to joing the wiki
 
 NergizK: If you give me your email address, I can add you and give you access
 
 DennisOl: Thanks, Nergiz.
 
 DennisOl: dennis.oliver
 
 DennisOl: 2
 
 DennisOl: @
 
 DennisOl: cox.net
 
 NergizK: We meet every Friday at 11 am SLT (PDT)
 
 NergizK: OK: Thanks
 
 MichaelS1: that sounds like 7pm here
 
 DennisOl: I don't know if I'll be able to make meetings at that time, but I'll try.
 
 NergizK: Have added you
 
 DennisOl: Thanks.
 
 DennisOl: I'll take a look at the wiki later.
 
 NergizK: Yes, Michael 7 pm British time, and 9pm for me here
 
 MichaelS1: Nergiz, I've got slexperiments open at the moment & I keep getting bells
 
 NergizK: Not all of us will make it every Friday
 
 NergizK: Ok, that's the chat gadget
 
 NergizK: you turn turn off it's sound
 
 MichaelS1: does it go 'ding dong' when something is added to the wiki?
 
 NergizK: No
 
 MichaelS1: oh the chat - Gabbler or something?
 
 NergizK: Whenever somebody enteres the cha room
 
 NergizK: Yes, Gablly, I hate it actually
 
 DennisOl: I tried opening Slexperiments, but it told me that I don't have access to the account.
 
 NergizK: But that#s the only one so far where visitors can chat with each other
 
 NergizK: Dennis, do you have a pbwiki account?
 
 DennisOl: Or did you add me to the Yahoo Group?
 
 NergizK: No, I added you to the wiki
 
 DennisOl: Yes, I have a pbwiki account.
 
 NergizK: Hm, maybe I typed your address wrong.
 
 DennisOl: dennis.oliver
 
 DennisOl: @
 
 DennisOl: cox.net
 
 NergizK: Ah, OK I thought there is a "2"
 
 DennisOl: No, that was a typo.
 
 DennisOl: What I typed above is correct, though.
 
 NergizK: Now, try again
 
 MichaelS1: you should receive an email inviting you to join
 
 DennisOl: OK. Thanks.
 
 NergizK: I've just added a participants list
 
 NergizK: But can't figure out how to add pictures
 
 ThomasLev: I've always thought SL would be good for teaching, once people got noticed the potential
 
 NergizK: In pbwiki 1.0 there was an"insert picture" button
 
 NergizK: Have you already taught in SL, Thomas?
 
 DennisOl: I got the e-mail message. Teşekkür ederim.
 
 ThomasLev: no- I don't have time
 
 ThomasLev: I'm interested though
 
 NergizK: Bir şey değil
 
 ClaireB joined the room.
 
 DennisOl smiles.
 
 ThomasLev: HI Claire!
 
 ThomasLev: hugs
 
 DennisOl: Hi, Claire! Hugs!
 
 NergizK: Hi Claire!!
 
 ClaireB hugs all
 
 ClaireB: Nergiz, it was so nice to hear your voice on Friday!
 
 NergizK: Than you, Claire! :)
 
 NergizK: Was nice having you there
 
 MichaelS1: (how do you do smiles and hugs?)
 
 NergizK: I hope your weekend hasn't been too bad
 
 ClaireB: type a colon and then the action
 
 NergizK smiles
 
 ClaireB smiles
 
 DennisOl smiles as well
 
 NergizK is laughing
 
 NergizK likes these meetings
 
 MichaelS1 smiles like this?
 
 ClaireB: my weekend has been very bad because I am trying to edit all the worldcall abstracts
 
 DennisOl is thinking he needs more coffee.
 
 ClaireB also thinks that dennis needs more coffee
 
 DennisOl: That sounds like an endless task, Claire.
 
 NergizK: Oh, that sounds like a lot of work
 
 ClaireB: yes, michael, you have it!
 
 ClaireB: yes, it really is
 
 DennisOl: I'
 
 MichaelS1 smiles smugly to himself
 
 DennisOl: I'll be back in a few minutes . . . . .
 
 NergizK: Is that part of your job or private
 
 ClaireB: but they have to be edited in order to go up on the website
 
 ClaireB: i am co-chair of the program committee
 
 ClaireB: it makes sense for me to do it since most of the other major players are not native speakers of english
 
 NergizK: Can't you delegate work to students or someone else?
 
 NergizK: Ah, I see
 
 ThomasLev: you have to figure out how to make applicants responsible for their own uploading & editing
 
 CorinneW joined the room.
 
 ThomasLev: Hi Corinne
 
 CorinneW: Hi, is this still webheads, or am I too late
 
 CorinneW: Hi Thomas
 
 NergizK: Hi Corrine
 
 NergizK: It's Webheads
 
 CorinneW: an Nergiz
 
 NergizK: and only just starsted
 
 ClaireB: ha! the presenters did uplaod their own stuff, but you should see it
 
 NergizK: started
 
 ClaireB: it's a mess
 
 ClaireB: hi corrine
 
 CorinneW: great, never manage to get here it is 14.37 on Sunday here
 
 ThomasLev: hmm
 
 CorinneW: Hi Clare
 
 ClaireB: where are you, corrinne
 
 NergizK: Ah, then you are in the UK
 
 CorinneW: Germany
 
 NergizK: Germany! How nice!
 
 NergizK: Right, one hour difference
 
 CorinneW: border to Austria, all my clients are Austrian as it goes
 
 NergizK: UK two hour difference
 
 CorinneW: or based in Austria, some private students are German
 
 NergizK: I was living in Freiburg
 
 ThomasLev: good in technology, not so good in sentences
 
 CorinneW: ahh, Freiburg, cool, I am in Bad Reichenhall
 
 NergizK: I've been there once
 
 CorinneW: have lived in Munich, Köln, Hamburg and Finland too before I moved to Germany
 
 MichaelJF joined the room.
 
 MichaelJF left the room.
 
 ThomasLev: it would be interesting to live in a town called Bad
 
 CorinneW: really, nice place
 
 ClaireB: indeed
 
 CorinneW: bad means spa
 
 NergizK: hehe, Thomas
 
 NergizK: I worked for a company in Germany whose name is SICK
 
 NergizK: he he
 
 CorinneW: and sometimes you see signs saying Bad Guru
 
 NergizK: And you don't want to know what it means in Turkish
 
 CorinneW: which means he is a sanitary/plumbing guru haha
 
 CorinneW: really?
 
 ThomasLev: bad guru gives bad advice
 
 CorinneW: o well that is a name that is easy to remember
 
 CorinneW: so how many of you are working with corporates or at least adults
 
 NergizK: Me, normally
 
 ThomasLev: I teach adults
 
 MichaelJF joined the room.
 
 ThomasLev: but they're students
 
 CorinneW: wb Michael
 
 NergizK: Hi MichaelJF
 
 MichaelJF: hi everybody
 
 MichaelJF: first time here
 
 NergizK: Welcome!
 
 ClaireB: where are you , michael?
 
 MichaelS1: that makes 2 first-time Michaels
 
 CorinneW: I know one of the guys that set up the CALL thing if I am not mistaken, can you still use it?
 
 MichaelJF: mind if i listen along?
 
 ClaireB: everyone is welcome
 
 CorinneW: not at all,
 
 NergizK: No, Michael
 
 MichaelJF: in hamilton new zealand
 
 ClaireB cool
 
 NergizK: What time is it there?
 
 ClaireB: im in pittsburgh, pa, usa
 
 MichaelJF: it's just after midnight
 
 NergizK: I'm in Turkey, Bursa
 
 ClaireB: early in the morning in pittsburgh
 
 MichaelS1: lunchtime in UK
 
 NergizK: Afternoon in Turkey
 
 CorinneW: anyway I am going to leave this chat open, I need to look after my son a little, but I will check the protocol later, if any of you are interested in buddying on business english online programmes, do let me know.
 
 ClaireB: michaels1, where are you in the uk?
 
 CorinneW: cul8r afk
 
 ClaireB: bye, corinne
 
 MichaelJF: bye
 
 NergizK: Bye, Corinne. Intersting offer
 
 MichaelS1: Lewes, East Sussex
 
 MichaelS1 wonders what 'afk' stands for
 
 ClaireB: i dunno either
 
 NergizK cul8r is a new one but I figured it out :-)
 
 ThomasLev: away from keyboard
 
 ClaireB: ah, thanks tom
 
 ClaireB: tom, is it raining where you are?
 
 ThomasLev: not yet
 
 MichaelS1: I thought 'all for now' - but that doesn't have a 'k'
 
 ClaireB: we had a storm last night, but now it's calm
 
 VanceS joined the room.
 
 MichaelS1: it's raining all over Eurpoe
 
 NergizK: Hi Vance!
 
 ThomasLev: it's been threatening here for days
 
 MichaelS1: Europe
 
 NergizK: It's very warm here
 
 VanceS: hi there
 
 NergizK: I'd love some rain
 
 ThomasLev: hi Vance!
 
 MichaelS1: W Europe at least - UK, France, Spain
 
 VanceS: sorry, decided to go home from work
 
 DennisOl: Hey, Vance.
 
 NergizK: Oh, right. It's a work da for you, Vance
 
 DennisOl: No rain in Phoenix.
 
 ThomasLev: is that a problem?
 
 VanceS: bobbi has been logged in so I can possibly read what's been happening
 
 CorinneW: afk - away from keyboard
 
 CarlaA joined the room.
 
 ClaireB hugs vance
 
 NergizK: Good to have so to do that for you
 
 ThomasLev: Hi Carla!
 
 NergizK: Hi Carla
 
 DennisOl: Carlinha! Abraços!
 
 ClaireB hugs carla
 
 CarlaA: hi, everyone!
 
 ClaireB: hi, carla!
 
 VanceS hugs everyone
 
 CarlaA: great to make it here today with such a wonderful crowd!
 
 DennisOl: Definitely!
 
 NergizK thinks the same
 
 ClaireB: vance, i was saying that I'm editing the worldcall abstracs and bios
 
 ClaireB: i found a mistake in yours, har har
 
 ClaireB: i fixed it
 
 NergizK: Poor Claire, has had to work all weekend
 
 ClaireB: poor claire
 
 VanceS: oh,
 
 DennisOl: Does that mean you've become a nun, Claire?
 
 CarlaA: Claire, I wish I could go to Japan...it will be so much fun!
 
 VanceS . o O ( wonders what the mistake was )
 
 VanceS: I haven't arranged accommodation there yet
 
 CarlaA: hahah funny Dennis!
 
 DennisOl chuckles
 
 CorinneW: afk again, protocol later
 
 ClaireB: it was something like "vance stevens is teacher" -- lack of article
 
 DennisOl: I wondered if anyone would realize that I was making a pun.
 
 VanceS is still trying to figure out the pun
 
 NergizK too :(
 
 DennisOl: Though it's actually "Poor Clares."
 
 ClaireB: nope, not a nun
 
 MichaelS wondered why it had all gone quiet
 
 ClaireB: I wish you could go too, carla
 
 DennisOl: The Poor Clares are an order of nuns.
 
 VanceS: ohhh, I didn't know that
 
 ThomasLev: aha
 
 MichaelS1: that work all day Sunday?
 
 ClaireB: yes, i have heard of the poor clares
 
 CarlaA: i didn't know either
 
 ThomasLev: I knew about e-claires
 
 ClaireB: i think they wear red velvet habits
 
 NergizK: Same here
 
 VanceS: socially networked nuns?
 
 CarlaA: but I couldn't picture claire as a nun!
 
 MichaelS1: that's chocolate
 
 ClaireB: no, i ain't no nun
 
 DennisOl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poor_Clares
 
 ClaireB: they are cloistered
 
 MichaelS1: Claire's having none of it
 
 ClaireB: i studied with the nuns
 
 ThomasLev: she's not in the habit
 
 ClaireB: haha michael
 
 NergizK: I think nowadys the rules are not that strict anymore
 
 CarlaA: I love e-claires and eclaits!!!
 
 DennisOl: E-Claires! That's another good pun.
 
 ClaireB: e-claire I can claim becuase my first name is eleanor. sometimes people call me e-claire
 
 CarlaA: don't tell me, Claire! I can't picture you studying with the nuns...
 
 DennisOl: I love it!
 
 MichaelJF left the room (signed off).
 
 NergizK: That's a good nick name for you
 
 ClaireB: i did. it was an episcopal girls' school. we had to stand up whenever a nun walked into the room
 
 MichaelS1: what's an episcopal girl?
 
 ClaireB: we called them "veils," as in "watch out -- here comes a veil!"
 
 CarlaA: hard to believe it, Claire! did u get in trouble ver frequently?
 
 DennisOl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89clair_%28pastry%29
 
 NergizK: Why do nuns have such a bad reputation? I know some ver nice ones
 
 ClaireB: in the us, the episcopal church is the same as the church of england
 
 ClaireB: it's the anglican communion
 
 NergizK: Didn't know they hald also nuns
 
 ClaireB: no, i didn't get into too much trouble
 
 ClaireB: only a few of the very high-church branches have nuns
 
 VanceS: what's the best way to find a place to stay in Fukuoka
 
 ClaireB: there is a list of hotels on the website
 
 ClaireB: are you looking for something really cheap?
 
 NergizK: When is worldcall?
 
 ClaireB: august 5-9
 
 VanceS: something for Bobbi and I, so suitable for a couple
 
 VanceS: but cheap, yes, cheap is usually pretty expensive t us
 
 NergizK: I thought it's sooner because Gavin just travelled to Japan
 
 RitaZ joined the room.
 
 DennisOl: http://www.worldcall.org/
 
 ThomasLev: HI Rita!
 
 NergizK: Hi Rita!
 
 RitaZ: Hi everybody
 
 CarlaA: Tom, I was meaning to contact you to tell your sister about the Brazilian music playlist Ronaldo and I made. I wanted you to show it to your sister. I'm sure she will enjoy it.
 
 DennisOl: Rita! Abrazos!
 
 CarlaA: hi, Rita
 
 ClaireB: one of my japanese friends told me of a cheap place, but i don't know if it would be suitable for a couple
 
 ThomasLev: I think she would, Carla
 
 MichaelS1: Carla - where's the playlist again?
 
 VanceS: well, pass it on and I'll check it out
 
 ClaireB: we will stay at the excel something, which is where a lot of our friends are staying but it ain't cheap
 
 ClaireB: ok
 
 VanceS: Hi Rita (hugs)
 
 ThomasLev: Also I have a book with your name on it
 
 RitaZ hugs DENNIS AND Vance back ;-)
 
 ClaireB: vance, he doesn't give the name but says "a cheap hostel by the train station -- 3500 yen a night"
 
 ClaireB hugs rita
 
 RitaZ and dear Clarita
 
 ClaireB: you can't imagine how much i love brazilian music; it's actually the reason that i learned Portuguese
 
 VanceS: we used to stay in hostels, forests, olive groves ...
 
 RitaZ . o O ( talking about stay in Japan..? )
 
 ClaireB: i chose a very westernized hotel because, believe it or not, it is marc's first trip outside the us except for canada
 
 ClaireB: i wanted to lessen the culture shock
 
 DennisOl: Carla: I love the music at Flávio Fonseca's website.
 
 RitaZ: lo Clari
 
 ClaireB: dennis? url please??????
 
 DennisOl: Hold on. It'll take me a little while to find it.
 
 ClaireB: rita, i am serious
 
 RitaZ: I know, Clari, yes
 
 ClaireB: dennis, from you we expect INSTANT urls
 
 ClaireB: he was even a little freaked out at the idea of going to hawaii a couple of years ago
 
 ClaireB: isn't that sweet?
 
 RitaZ can see Dennis searching fast
 
 VanceS: I'm having trouble finding an instant URL for accommodation at the WorldCALL website
 
 CarlaA left the room (signed off).
 
 ClaireB: have you found the list of hotels?
 
 ClaireB: The ARK Hotel Hakata Royal is supposed to be 7000 a night
 
 VanceS: not yet, still looking
 
 CarlaA joined the room.
 
 ClaireB: vance, one thing to keep in mind is that hotel rates are per person, not pe room. so for a couple you have to pay almost double
 
 VanceS: I'm at j-let. org
 
 ClaireB: welcome back, carla
 
 VanceS: ouch
 
 ClaireB: yes, but it is the custom in japan. marc and I have paid a shocking amount for our room
 
 CarlaA: Sorry, guys...was kicked out... Mike and Tom, here's the url for the brazilian music playlist http://brazilbridges.pbwiki.com/BrazilianMusic
 
 VanceS: worse than NYC?
 
 ClaireB: I don't remember how much -- trying not to think abot it
 
 ClaireB: about the same as nyc
 
 ThomasLev: thanks, Carla- I'll pass it along- and listen to it!
 
 ClaireB: that is one great list, carla
 
 VanceS: maybe they've taken hotel info down
 
 DennisOl: Here it is (finally), Claire:
 
 DennisOl: http://www.musicexpress.com.br/
 
 CarlaA: thanks, tom and claire
 
 MichaelS1: Carla - obrigado
 
 CarlaA: it's what I really like!
 
 ClaireB: Well, it's about time, dennis (just kidding)
 
 CarlaA: oh, the url just posted is my online student's webpage. He's a musician who's worked with big names in Brazil
 
 DennisOl chuckles
 
 CarlaA: poor Dennis. Claire today is very demanding!
 
 ClaireB: yeah, poor dennis
 
 DennisOl: Flávio is very talented and the website is fascinating. He's into languages as well as music. He even has links to indigenous music and music in Esperanto!
 
 ClaireB: i want to go back to brazil
 
 RitaZ: Dennis has managed to make a reputation for being very fast...., thats why..;-)
 
 CarlaA: I'm be there next year, Claire, and waiting for you!
 
 ClaireB: yes, usually dennis posts urls immediately
 
 DennisOl: When will you return, Carlinha?
 
 ClaireB: are you eager to go back, carla?
 
 CarlaA: Feb 2009
 
 ClaireB: that's not too long
 
 CarlaA: I have mixed feelings...
 
 DennisOl: Ah, I see. That's definitely not too long. The time has passed VERY quickly!
 
 ClaireB: yes, i can imagine
 
 CarlaA: just love Key west and being near to the beach, but miss Brazil, family, friends, lifestyle...
 
 ClaireB: rita, what are you up to these days?
 
 DennisOl: Tell us more about the multimedia center, Rita.
 
 RitaZ: Im opening the Multimedia area in my place, Clari!!!!!
 
 CarlaA: this is so neat, Rita!
 
 ClaireB: in your school?
 
 RitaZ: its coming alive..., Im training 8 teachers
 
 DennisOl: Yes, it's wonderful!
 
 RitaZ: who'll train other8
 
 CarlaA: so, how many computers will you have there Rita?
 
 RitaZ: and Im organizing teams
 
 ClaireB: rita, you might find some useful information here: http://www.edvista.com/claire/labplan.html
 
 ClaireB: but probably all the links' don't work anymore
 
 RitaZ: working on different areas: listening, quizzes, games, pronunciation
 
 RitaZ: thank you, Clari!!!
 
 RitaZ: and on different levels
 
 RitaZ: integrating f2f classes and CALL
 
 CarlaA: Rita, Erika, Ronaldo and I have been working for the past years organizing what we call e-folder
 
 ClaireB: in fact, it looks like none of the links in the first section will work. I'll fix them
 
 CarlaA: teachers and students have access to it and teachers use it in the lab
 
 ClaireB: is it on a server?
 
 RitaZ: so how havr you organized it, Carla?
 
 DennisOl: Are you and Erika and Ronaldo responsibl for the fantastic collection of resources at the Thomas website, Carlinha?
 
 CarlaA: http://www.thomas.org.br/new_ctj/stuff/stuff_efolder.php?menu=#3
 
 RitaZ: Ill try and see whether we can have moodle soon
 
 CarlaA: Rita, we have the e-folder organized by levels, books, units...
 
 RitaZ: in the meantime we are keeping all materials we are developing in a wiki
 
 CarlaA: no we keep it on our school webpage
 
 RitaZ: thats sth different
 
 CarlaA: we use quia to create the resources. Just fantastic
 
 RitaZ: we dont want to put it all in our page
 
 CarlaA: we use other resources, too, but quia is the big one
 
 DennisOl: I think I'm going to get involved in Quia again.
 
 CarlaA: oh, you can have like delicious or a wiki to do it rita
 
 RitaZ: I dont want to create tasks that can be carried out on paper, in th SElf Access area
 
 NergizK listening awestruck
 
 ClaireB: what they have done at casa thomas jefferson is truly impressive
 
 RitaZ: we are using videos
 
 RitaZ: a lot, for exploitation
 
 MandyGst2 joined the room.
 
 ClaireB: hi mandy
 
 DennisOl: I agree about the Thomas website, Claire.
 
 RitaZ: and mainly, everything done by us, teachers, on wiki pages for stds
 
 CarlaA: an example here, Rita, of video and quia http://www.quia.com/cz/80842.html
 
 ClaireB: the ctj place is also very nice
 
 ThomasLev: hi Mandy
 
 RitaZ: with prepared tasks of online m,aterial
 
 RitaZ: so quite a lot of work
 
 RitaZ: but eascinating
 
 VanceS . o O ( thanks for the example )
 
 VanceS . o O ( but no longer available ... )
 
 RitaZ: thanks you, Carla will take a look in detail later
 
 DennisOl: Unfortunately, the Pink video is no longer available. What a pity!
 
 ClaireB: what did you use to make the exercise, carla?
 
 CarlaA: rita, there's just one thing about wikis if you want students to work collaboratively...
 
 RitaZ: yes?
 
 CarlaA: there's a problem with students working on a wiki page at the same time...
 
 VanceS: but the exercise is there, so I get the idea ...
 
 VanceS: Kind of like Hot Potatoes with embedded media
 
 CarlaA: I don't know if they solved that...but there was that issue of one "stealing" the edit lock from the other.
 
 ClaireB: ah, never mind, i see that it is in quia
 
 NergizK: I think if you want students to work on the same page at the same time Google Docs is good
 
 CarlaA: yes, vance. we use hotpotatoes too
 
 CarlaA: couldn't do it, Rita...
 
 RitaZ: ah, Carla, but I've upgraded ours to be able to have a pw foe reach std
 
 NergizK: What is pw?
 
 ClaireB: a lot of american universities are warning people that with google docs, everything you make becomes property of google
 
 ClaireB: password
 
 CarlaA: so can students be editing at the same time?
 
 NergizK: Really, Claire?
 
 ClaireB: yes
 
 RitaZ: brb phone
 
 NergizK: Oh :(
 
 DennisOl: The "edit lock" feature can be very frustrating.
 
 VanceS: i don't get how editing can happen at the same time
 
 NergizK: Now, I need an alternative to Google
 
 VanceS: edit lock will be necessary, in Google Docs you're informed that someone else is editing
 
 ClaireB: google is now seen as the "new microsoft"
 
 CarlaA: Vance, once they wer working on poems, and which group was writing straight on the wiki. then, when they wanted to save their work, it was a mess...
 
 NergizK: Yes, but in Google Docs you see immediately what the other person is doing
 
 VanceS: sounds like the ultimate poem
 
 NergizK: Great for feedback
 
 ClaireB: lol vance
 
 CarlaA: because the wiki said that somebody else was editing...
 
 VanceS: poem created as collaborative wiki
 
 CarlaA: almost the ultimate poem!
 
 RitaZ: back again, reading
 
 NergizK is thinking of what to do now
 
 CarlaA: at last, I asked them to send me their poems by email
 
 ClaireB: nergiz, you seem to be twitting at the same time!
 
 VanceS: I haven't noticed with Google docs that I can see what the other is doing
 
 NergizK: Oh, that was an hour ago, I think
 
 VanceS I'm aware that it saves frequenly
 
 ClaireB: carla that is a perfect example to illustrate that every tool does not work in every situation
 
 ClaireB: no, it says 20 minutes ago, but perhaps i did not refresh the page
 
 RitaZ: I know what you mean, guys, about a wiki, but like in Self Access, Im planning stds to work on their own at times, and at times in pairs or groups
 
 NergizK: But I'm trying to get better at multi-tasking
 
 NergizK: Ah, sorry, yes, my message to Joao
 
 CarlaA: yes, Claire. We just need to be quick to find alternate solutions. Otherwise it can be very frustrating
 
 CarlaA: so then it would be one group at a time, Rita? That would work...
 
 RitaZ: yeah
 
 NergizK: So what is a good synchronous collaboration tool, then?
 
 CarlaA: oh, so it's Ok, Rita!
 
 RitaZ :-))
 
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 CarlaA: I must say that google docs are, I'm afraid!
 
 RitaZ: speaking at Tapped In, Nergiz :-)
 
 ClaireB: i think she means in terms of producing a document
 
 NergizK: Someone on twitter posted this: http://thinkature.com/
 
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 NergizK: Yes, I meant producing a document
 
 CarlaA: tappedin is great, but not to organize content, like a document...
 
 RitaZ: I know, just kidding
 
 VanceS: I'm there now
 
 NergizK: Otherwise, there is plenty: WiziQ, Tappedin, ...
 
 NergizK -)
 
 ClaireB: welcome back, mandy
 
 DennisOl: Thinkature looks really interesting, Nergiz. Have you tried it?
 
 ClaireB: i gotta go, you guys. it was nice to chat with you!
 
 NergizK: I wanted to, Dennis. But it doesn't seem to work for me
 
 DennisOl: Take care, Claire!
 
 NergizK: Same, Claire.
 
 NergizK: Don't work too hard
 
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 MichaelS1: watch out for them nuns!
 
 ThomasLev: I also have to go!
 
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 RitaZ: Im looking at thinkature, looks great!
 
 NergizK: Bye, Thomas!
 
 ThomasLev: cu
 
 NergizK: Enjoy Breakfast
 
 VanceS: Carla HAD to go but she came back
 
 ThomasLev: thanks!
 
 RitaZ: Hugs, Clari!
 
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 RitaZ: phew, mistake :-(
 
 CarlaA: I'm getting kicked out today!
 
 DennisOl: Very strange!
 
 NergizK: Many people seem to experience problems with thinkature
 
 VanceS: Im at a workspace i thinkature but need to invite someone
 
 NergizK: I think they're still working on it. But once it's finished it will be greaet
 
 NergizK: I cannot log in Vance
 
 VanceS: I'm vances
 
 CarlaA: Just learned about this one http://www.penzu.com/pad, but haven't checked yet
 
 VanceS: I had to refresh, I got a blank screen at first
 
 NergizK: OK. You can invite me
 
 NergizK: My User name is NergizK or do you need email?
 
 VanceS: ok, I invited NergizK
 
 DennisOl: You can invite me, too. I just created an account.
 
 VanceS: and made it public
 
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 CarlaA: I'll create an account there too so we can test
 
 DennisOl: Dennis-Phoenix
 
 NergizK: I accepted invitation and page is loading
 
 NergizK: Page is loading and loading and ...
 
 VanceS: ok, I created another space called webheads
 
 RitaZ: Ive created mine as well, Im RitaZ
 
 NergizK: There is also voice
 
 RitaZ: loading
 
 VanceS: now I'm loading my tutorial space
 
 VanceS: no chance to invite dennis yet
 
 VanceS: but it's public, I guess this is its url: http://thinkature.com/workspace/vances/Tutorial%20Workspace
 
 RitaZ: very slow loading process
 
 NergizK: Still loading
 
 VanceS: it seems to be a space where we can collaboratively watch a revolving loading graphic
 
 VanceS: isn't that neat? We're all staring at the same graphic
 
 VanceS: what will they think of next?
 
 NergizK: I think it's like a whiteboard that you can create together once or if loading is finished
 
 RitaZ: http://thinkature.com/workspace/RitaZ/Tutorial%20Workspace
 
 VanceS: ca you get it to load in RIta?
 
 RitaZ: its loading, taking too long
 
 NergizK: I've typed something into chat, Vance. Could you see it?
 
 VanceS: I've typed, no can't see it, into chat, can you see that?
 
 DennisOl: It seems to be frozen for me.
 
 CarlaA: my username is carlaarena there.
 
 RitaZ: for me too, Dennis :-(
 
 NergizK: No, Vance
 
 VanceS: penzu looks more like that nergiz had in mind
 
 DennisOl: Is that the problem you had, Nergiz?
 
 NergizK: I've tried drawing but nothing happens
 
 VanceS: I'm vance there
 
 RitaZ: maybe too many people are trying to have access at same time? not used to that..?
 
 NergizK: Yes, that's the problem. I think it's good to bookmark and try in the future
 
 VanceS: no, it looks like it's not synch
 
 RitaZ: yeah, it stuck
 
 CarlaA: will try it later.
 
 VanceS: I can email to share
 
 RitaZ: ok
 
 DennisOl: Yes, I'll try it later, too.
 
 NergizK: Penzu? Did I miss something?
 
 CarlaA: ok, vance.
 
 DennisOl: Thanks, Vance.
 
 CarlaA: http://www.penzu.com/pad
 
 CarlaA: I just learned about this one Nergiz
 
 VanceS: yes, it doesn't look like we can write there synchronously
 
 MichaelS1: I've registered but Vance's workspace is still loading . . .
 
 CarlaA: guys, I'll have to leave now, but great talking to you all!
 
 CarlaA: we always learn here!
 
 RitaZ: bye, Carla, have a great wek
 
 NergizK: Was good to have you here, Carla. Bye
 
 NergizK: Thanks for the link
 
 DennisOl: Take care, Carlinha! Abraços!
 
 CarlaA: bye all. Rita, let u know what you prepare for your lab.
 
 VanceS: nice to have a few minutes to play with tools
 
 CarlaA: would love to share stuff and learn from you
 
 VanceS: and hear about everyone's projects
 
 CarlaA: besos
 
 RitaZ: ok, Carla, lets keep in contact :)
 
 CarlaA left the room (signed off).
 
 VanceS: ok, giving up on thinkature
 
 RitaZ: guys, need to leave as well, hubby and friends waiting for a sailing day..., nice outside
 
 NergizK: Vance, Barbara said your son is writing about SL
 
 NergizK: Sailing? Sounds good, Rita
 
 VanceS: he's doing a project there
 
 DennisOl: Earlier, Vance mentioned Penzu:
 
 DennisOl: http://penzu.com/pad
 
 NergizK: Enjoy
 
 VanceS: she's got a transcript going with what I missed
 
 RitaZ: thank you, have a good week, all hugs!
 
 DennisOl: Sailing sounds wonderful. Have a terrific time!
 
 VanceS: have fun sailing RIta
 
 RitaZ: thanks, Dennis :-)
 
 RitaZ: bye, guys, love!
 
 VanceS: hugs
 
 NergizK: What kind of project, Vance?
 
 RitaZ left the room (signed off).
 
 DennisOl: You're very welcome! Muchos abrazos!
 
 VanceS: he's doing a distance MA
 
 NergizK: In EdTech?
 
 VanceS: MA ESL I think
 
 VanceS: but he's interested in Ed Tech
 
 NergizK: I like that: I think
 
 VanceS . o O ( no idea why )
 
 VanceS . o O ( :-))) )
 
 DennisOl chuckles
 
 VanceS: lately he's reaching the point where he can probably mentor me in SL
 
 MichaelS1 wonders what o O means ...
 
 NergizK: I'm also thinking of doing an MA in EdTech and TESOL ( dream)
 
 VanceS: what's the address of the PBWiki
 
 VanceS . o O ( thought bubbles MIchael )
 
 NergizK: http://slexperiments.pbwiki.com
 
 NergizK: He can join
 
 NergizK: Michael that's the second most used after the colon
 
 MichaelS1: so what's the first?
 
 NergizK: You learned about the colon already
 
 MichaelS1: lol ??
 
 NergizK is smiling
 
 VanceS: do you mean what is the most used emoticon?
 
 MichaelS1: I'm off for lunch - thanks for the chat
 
 DennisOl: Take care, Michael. It was nice to meet you!
 
 NergizK: Bye, Michael
 
 MichaelS1: still chatting - when will I eat?
 
 VanceS: something's dinging at me on my computer
 
 NergizK: Are on the wiki page?
 
 MichaelS1: Nergiz said o O was the 2nd most used after colon
 
 VanceS: yes I am
 
 NergizK: That's the chat gadget
 
 NergizK: you can turn off the sound
 
 NergizK: just click on the bell
 
 NergizK: it's annoying
 
 VanceS: oh
 
 VanceS: yes, you mentioned gabbly
 
 NergizK: I hate Gabbly but it allows visitors to chat with each other
 
 MichaelS1: so, thx also 4 xpnding my txt vcblry
 
 NergizK: Yes, I did
 
 NergizK: Let's try if it workd
 
 NergizK: works
 
 MichaelS1 bows out gracefully
 
 VanceS: trying to register with gabbly
 
 NergizK: You don'T have to
 
 NergizK: Jus type in your name
 
 NergizK: And chat
 
 VanceS: well gabbly works
 
 VanceS: i guess it's nice to be able to communicate on a web site
 
 NergizK: Yes
 
 VanceS: yeah, you mentione that this one allows any visitor to chat here
 
 VanceS: nice
 
 NergizK: The only things is when you go to another page, the chat starts al over again
 
 NergizK: I mean you have to type in your name again
 
 NergizK: But still good, if you want to discuss something on that page
 
 VanceS: that used to be a big deal to be albe to interact in real time with visitors to a same web page
 
 VanceS: there was a client that used to do that
 
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 DennisOl: I need to leave, folks, but I've enjoyed today's chat (as usual).
 
 VanceS: us too
 
 DennisOl: Take care, Vance and Nergiz!
 
 VanceS: gabbly is kind of cool
 
 DennisOl: Bye . . . . .
 
 VanceS: as you say, not all that professional
 
 NergizK: Oh, take care Dennis
 
 DennisOl: Thanks Nergiz. You, too!
 
 NergizK: Was good to chat with you again
 
 DennisOl: Likewise!
 
 VanceS: yes, always good to chat with Dennis
 
 NergizK: I know, Vance. I will look for an alternative
 
 DennisOl left the room (signed off).
 
 VanceS: interesting if you find one that will let visitors chat
 
 VanceS: what about the one they use at worldbridges
 
 VanceS: I don't think its free
 
 VanceS: homestead used to provide a chat applet you could place anywhere
 
 NergizK: don't know about that
 
 NergizK: homestead, I'll check it out
 
 VanceS: I don't think you want that one, but there must be a free chat like this that isn't neon activated
 
 NergizK: Hope so
 
 NergizK: Someone in Webheads YG gave me a list of gadgets
 
 NergizK: I'll see if one them works this way
 
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 VanceS: we're in the chat at http://slexperiments.pbwiki.com/ if anyone wants to join us
 
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 NergizK: Hi Ellen
 
 VanceS: Nergiz, I'm editing, no chat over there
 
 EllenMN: Hi
 
 NergizK: Ah, yes, It's telling me you are
 
 NergizK: Where are you from, Ellen?
 
 EllenMN: Northern Virginia , and you?
 
 NergizK: Turkey
 
 VanceS: graham added a pic from flickr via an html IMG SRC tag
 
 EllenMN: cool, middle of the night there?
 
 NergizK: no, afternoon 5pm
 
 VanceS: early evening here in Abu Dhabi
 
 NergizK smiles
 
 NergizK: We had someone from New Zealand but think he is sound asleep now
 
 EllenMN: really?! 10 Am bright and too damn early here
 
 NergizK: We usually have some early risers from the US here, too
 
 NergizK: But they're off for breakfast :-)
 
 NergizK: Vance are you trying to insert a picture?
 
 EllenMN: just finished mine, was up all night
 
 VanceS: yes, and there it is
 
 NergizK: Oh, let me see
 
 NergizK: Great! Now tell me how you did it
 
 NergizK: I've uploaded my picture alredy
 
 NergizK: already
 
 NergizK: but what then?
 
 VanceS: in the files?
 
 NergizK: Yes
 
 NergizK: And I can only see my file there
 
 VanceS: click on upload /view files
 
 NergizK: I'm there
 
 VanceS: I see only le riad shop, is that yours?
 
 NergizK: Yes :-)
 
 NergizK Should have renamed it
 
 VanceS: http://slexperiments.pbwiki.com/f/SL%20Le%20Riad%20Shop%209%20April%202008_002_2%20AS.jpg
 
 VanceS: ok, I just right clicked on it and selected copy link location
 
 VanceS: and it put the above URL in the buffer
 
 VanceS: and I pasted it here
 
 CorinneW: back again
 
 VanceS: now you add the IMG SRC tag around the picture URL like this
 
 VanceS: <img src="http://slexperiments.pbwiki.com/f/SL%20Le%20Riad%20Shop%209%20April%202008_002_2%20AS.jpg"
 
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 VanceS: it you copy that from < to  then you will have what you need
 
 NergizK: OK
 
 VanceS: ok, it's in your buffer?
 
 CorinneW catches up a little on the conversation
 
 VanceS: now you go to the participant page here
 
 NergizK: In source mode?
 
 VanceS: this is for corinne: http://slexperiments.pbwiki.com/Participants
 
 VanceS: Nergiz is working here
 
 CorinneW: ok
 
 EllenMN left the room (signed off).
 
 EllenMN joined the room.
 
 CorinneW clicks
 
 VanceS: yes, edit, source
 
 VanceS: find the table
 
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 VanceS: find the cell you wnat to put the picture in
 
 NergizK: OK
 
 VanceS: and paste your image link there
 
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 VanceS: between the <p and <p
 
 VanceS: see that?
 
 NergizK: I have to go to source
 
 VanceS: barbitta is editing now
 
 VanceS: is that you?
 
 NergizK: Yes, there it is
 
 NergizK: No barbitta is Alica
 
 NergizK: But my picture is there
 
 VanceS: oh, she seems to have the lock right now
 
 VanceS: ok
 
 VanceS: yes, well done
 
 NergizK: Thanks Vance. I thought because it's the new version I wouldn't need those codes
 
 VanceS: and alice has added hers
 
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 VanceS: there might be an easier way
 
 VanceS: but I'm to slow to figure out an easier way ;-)
 
 NergizK: Yes, so she has also figured it out
 
 VanceS: maybe she knows the easy way
 
 NergizK: In one version of pbwiki you just had to click on insert image
 
 VanceS: I'll go find a pic of me in SL
 
 NergizK: OK
 
 NergizK: Time for me to leave too
 
 EllenMN left the room (signed off).
 
 VanceS: there are two interfaces, classic and wysiwyg
 
 VanceS: maybe you need to toggle the interface
 
 NergizK: I don't like classic and in this one you cannot toggle anymore
 
 VanceS: oh, yes you are right, the classic uses wiki script
 
 NergizK smiling
 
 NergizK: Bye foe now
 
 NergizK: for
 
 NergizK: I need coffee
 
 CorinneW: so i have joined pb but now I cannot 'find' you all
 
 CorinneW: where do I click
 
 VanceS: http://slexperiments.pbwiki.com/Participants
 
 NergizK: Oh, corinne you need to join the wiki
 
 NergizK: But I need your email address to add you
 
 CorinneW: what is the name of the wiki
 
 CorinneW: wilhelm@clever2gether.de thanks
 
 NergizK: Uh, now it's public :-)
 
 VanceS: can you release your edit, Nergiz?
 
 NergizK: I've added you
 
 CorinneW: great
 
 NergizK: Sorry, Vance. Had forgotten that I'm still i edit
 
 CorinneW: so what is the name of the wiki or do I click on the press that I was given earlier
 
 VanceS: I'd like to put Webhead Link's pic there
 
 NergizK: Yes, the link above slexperiments
 
 VanceS: may I steal the lock?
 
 NergizK: Go ahead, I've finished editign
 
 NergizK: Can't type anymore :-)
 
 VanceS: got it
 
 NergizK: Corinne, do you teach in SL?
 
 VanceS: there, is the pic too big?
 
 NergizK: Let me see
 
 NergizK: No, it's OK
 
 NergizK: You like to stand out ;-)
 
 NergizK: kidding
 
 VanceS: I'll reduce it a little
 
 VanceS . o O ( he says, more modestly )
 
 NergizK: no leave it
 
 NergizK: I wonder why there are only two files in upload/view files
 
 VanceS: I guess I will, Randi Harley i editing
 
 NergizK: Do you know Randi?
 
 VanceS: Graham and I are linking to URLs elsewhere on the Internet
 
 NergizK: Ah, OK, that's a good idea, actually
 
 VanceS: you are too, but yours is in hte files area here
 
 CorinneW: ok added my photo
 
 VanceS: and gets its url from here
 
 NergizK: Let me see, Corinne
 
 VanceS: I don't kow Randi
 
 CorinneW: yes I do, ESP mostly Business English for finance, marketing& media and technology
 
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 NergizK: I see your pics in the user list but not the participanst page. Maybe because it's being edited?
 
 NergizK: You do that in SL?
 
 NergizK: I mean teach BE?
 
 NergizK: Gabbly chat busy now
 
 VanceS: I'm going back to real life for a while
 
 NergizK: OK :-)
 
 CorinneW: my own language is English, I speak German chaotically fluently, so Ger is Second Language
 
 VanceS: sundown here, nice ocean view from our balcony
 
 NergizK: Bye Vance
 
 NergizK: And thanks!
 
 NergizK: I envy that
 
 VanceS: ok, my pleasure,
 
 VanceS: bye
 
 NergizK: Bye
 
 VanceS left the room (signed off).
 
 NergizK: I see
 
 NergizK: But do you teach in SL?
 
 NergizK: At the moment Randi is editing the wiki
 
 CorinneW: is SL second language?
 
 NergizK: Yes
 
 NergizK: Sorry
 
 CorinneW: or second life
 
 NergizK: second life
 
 CorinneW: no
 
 NergizK: I'm confused
 
 CorinneW: I don't teach in second life
 
 NergizK: Have been working on the computer for too long today
 
 TheresaME left the room.
 
 CorinneW smiles
 
 NergizK: The wiki you've joined is for teaching languages in Second LIfe
 
 CorinneW: do you teach at sl
 
 CorinneW: ahhh ok
 
 NergizK: Soon, I'm preparing a course right now
 
 CorinneW: so I am now atleast involved in second life in a tertiary way, you could say, laughs
 
 NergizK is laughing
 
 NergizK: A good start
 
 NergizK: So you use tappedin
 
 CorinneW: I tried it once, got a bit freaked out, probably checked it out when I had more interest than time
 
 NergizK: any other tools?
 
 CorinneW: I use tappedin to teach
 
 CorinneW: I have used webex too
 
 CorinneW: and first class
 
 NergizK: Probably, SL has a steep learning curve
 
 NergizK: Are those virtual classrooms?
 
 CorinneW: and a moodle at the FHS - Technical Uni
 
 CorinneW: webex is
 
 CorinneW: tappedin and first class - type collaboration
 
 NergizK: Is that Furtwangen?
 
 CorinneW: Salzburg
 
 CorinneW: I teach the Information Systems students
 
 NergizK: And do you use voice?
 
 CorinneW: I have used wiziq too, which is a virtual classroom
 
 CorinneW: I do via skype for individual clients
 
 NergizK: I use WiziQ
 
 CorinneW: do you like it
 
 NergizK: Skype is great
 
 NergizK: Oh, yes
 
 CorinneW: fantastic and Pamela is great for recordings
 
 NergizK: I like the fact that you don't need to download anything
 
 NergizK: Is Pamela for free?
 
 CorinneW: I also use my mobile phone to record mistakes, interviews etc which I upload for online learning, sometimes i quizzes, sometimes stand alone, I also write ebooks
 
 CorinneW: yes
 
 CorinneW: free add on
 
 NergizK: wow!
 
 CorinneW: has a time limit but so far has not been an issue for me
 
 CorinneW: audiocity is useful too
 
 NergizK: It's probably for windows
 
 NergizK: I have audacity
 
 NergizK: But can you record skype with it?
 
 CorinneW: have to go soon, can I ask you when you tend to be here at TI, it would be great to touch base again
 
 CorinneW: not that I know of
 
 CorinneW: brb
 
 NergizK: Well, usually between 14-16 German time
 
 NergizK: I will sign out now, too. Has been a long session
 
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 CorinneW: ok, meeto
 
 NergizK: You can join our weekly SL meetings if you want, Fridays at 20 German time
 
 CorinneW: oops me too
 
 NergizK: Bye
 
 CorinneW: ok, thanks in sl
 
 CorinneW: or here or pbwiki
 
 NergizK left the room (signed off).
 
 TheresaME: HI, I am a new user of TappedIn and have a question.
 
 CorinneW: certainly, fire ahead
 
 TheresaME: I joined a few groups and see that one, I need to register. What is the reason for this?
 
 CorinneW: some people like to keep them private for either commercial or confidentiality or competitive advantage reasons
 
 CorinneW: I teach here and keep those limited too, so that people going in are people I know
 
 CorinneW: but it is normally a formality more than anything, don't let it put you off
 
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 TheresaME: Maybe they are looking to see who is more professional?
 
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 CorinneW: sorry Theresa
 
 TheresaME: It's ok
 
 CorinneW: did that make sense, just ask them if you can join and it is normally not a problem
 
 TheresaME: Yes, I understand now. THANKS.
 
 CorinneW: registration keeps numbers to a manageable level too we all have different reasons, you can also lock your room but I tend to keep mine open
 
 TheresaME: I guess this would limit members (I was just writing the same)
 
 CorinneW smiles, great mind
 
 CorinneW: s
 
 TheresaME: I am taking an online course and this is part of it
 
 CorinneW: you might even want to set up your own group here,
 
 CorinneW: great
 
 TheresaME: I will try to create a group someday. YOu never know.
 
 CorinneW: yeah why not it can be as much or as little work as you want it to be
 
 TheresaME: Thanks for your time.
 
 CorinneW: for example I have a group at the moment that is on hold, because of my workload
 
 CorinneW: we start up again in september
 
 CorinneW: ok, good luck with the course, take care now, I have a four year old climbing all over my chair, gotta go
 
 CorinneW smiles and sighs at the same time
 
 TheresaME: I totally understand that. The only reason I would not log in more often is because it is hard to find people online at the same time.
 
 TheresaME: bye
 
 CorinneW: this is true, but for a European it is harder
 
 CorinneW: there are lots of live sessions here though
 
 CorinneW: there has just been one for second life teachers of english
 
 CorinneW: I got to meet someone that I would never have met at my regular online teaching times
 
 TheresaME: Is there a way to tell which group has members online without actually goin to the group site.
 
 CorinneW: yes if I understand you correctly you can always see a) who is Here (see tab above the names) and who is ONLINE
 
 CorinneW: click on online and you will see that Carrie for instance is in her office
 
 CorinneW: when I am teaching here I can keep an e
 
 CorinneW: ye on who is in the other room or their office by using the online tab
 
 CorinneW: if you suspect that someone is afk, you can type backslash who to find out when they were last active (quite handy)
 
 TheresaME: OH, so next to their names--it says the group they are in or where they are?
 
 TheresaME: what is afk?
 
 CorinneW: away from keyboard
 
 CorinneW: exactly
 
 CorinneW: and wb is welcome back
 
 CorinneW: brb be right back
 
 TheresaME: great
 
 TheresaME: You are a great help!
 
 TheresaME: What group is CarrieK? Ofc She is in office. Where would i go to find her?
 
 TheresaME: Hope I am not asking too many questions
 
 TheresaME: Sorry for the errors. I am just experimenting with these symbols.
 
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